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If you had free reign over the US education system [...]

Unicoi, Tennessee
via FCP - United States
If you had free reign over the US education system (and all the laws governing it) what would you do?
Tell the truth.
Sunday 6 March 2016, 14:49:39
First off, compulsory schooling would be scrapped. Let the free market operate. This is already happening with online education offerings. Apprenticeship programs would flourish.
Perhaps the current education system will step up and compete. Or not.
Fun to think about. Thanks!
Sunday 6 March 2016, 15:36:41
Martha Chamberlain
I think a free market education system would serve us much better too. My grandmother was a small town one room school house teacher. She had a little library of school books she had collected, from her time and just before her time. I couldn't believe what these supposedly "country" children were supposed to learn by the sixth grade! Most kids today don't get to a similar academic level until college.
Sunday 6 March 2016, 23:46:00
Some old test questions and lesson plans circulate on the 'net from time to time. Stunning contrast to what we are used to now. In the past, schooling meant teaching the trivium then the quadrivium. This was quite effective as seen by reading almost any 'old' book.
Sunday 6 March 2016, 23:58:03
Martha Chamberlain
That classical liberal
education is what the elites treat themselves to now. And one of the main reasons they can manipulate the masses so well. It used to be what education was for everyone before the social engineering craze of the last century took over to produce workers. Education really is power, if its the right kind of education.
Monday 7 March 2016, 02:08:42
Laura T
I would ban all standardization. Heck... ban school as a requirement. Love the idea of the trivium being common knowledge. I've not heard of the quadrivium. Curious about that, Paul.
Monday 7 March 2016, 04:25:43
The quadrivium is just the next step in education. It involves relationships and patterns as in the study of astronomy, geometry, arithmetic, and music. This is what Shamanic Engineering has produced on his website. When you complete the whole shebang, you are ready to seriously contemplate the deeper issues, for instance, the proper way to hang a roll of toilet paper…..
Monday 7 March 2016, 15:27:30
Martha Chamberlain
I hadn't heard of the quadrivium either, thanks :)
Wednesday 9 March 2016, 14:51:45
[deleted user]
Wow, thanks Paul. I had no idea that's what I had created. Honestly, I was just following my own toilet paper hanging abilities. I had never heard of the Trivium or the Quadrivium before coming here, I really need to look into this more. I agree with you Laura, I think that standardized testing, government schooling, the department of education in the US, and especially the Teacher's Union should all be eliminated!
Wednesday 9 March 2016, 19:33:13
Martha Chamberlain
And now that we don't have all that bad stuff, what would your favorite new system look like?
Friday 11 March 2016, 00:50:53
[deleted user]
Develop a curriculum that teaches kids how to use their minds for thinking, their hearts for acting, and their hands for doing. Allow them to teach their teachers and their fellow students by giving them the space to study their own areas of interest, as well as classical basics. Find their passions, guide them in developing them, support them in their studies, give them the tools to succeed, and then allow them to teach too. Allow their peers to participate in grading them, observe how well they've done by how they've inspired their fellows. I could go on for pages...but this would be the start of the foundation.
Friday 11 March 2016, 02:32:33
That sounds like a good idea. Being more a coach, less
a teacher. Would you you have a goal for your clients? (assuming we’re talking free market)
Friday 11 March 2016, 03:20:43
Martha Chamberlain
I would like young people to discover the things they love to do and develop those things in ways that will allow them to feel success and joy. I think a curriculum should introduce subjects appropriate to each child's intellectual and emotional abilities, covering "basics" while also encouraging exploration with ideas and practical real world experiences like experiments and apprenticeships. It's neglectful, perhaps abusive, to treat children like memorization factories. I'd like to see teachers act more like facilitators or coaches yes! There are some nice success stories from education done this way.
Friday 11 March 2016, 04:33:13
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