Lula Revolution one thing- but what Ian and others are doing is 'naming it for what is is' (calling 'a spade a spade' as our friend Max would say;-))...and illustrating how the legal mechanisms can be used both against us and FOR us....a mechanism to hold public officials (which they are not, as they are employed by corpses) accountable for writing this type of disgraceful legislation which certainly is in violation of the one principle natural law of 'do no harm'..... and yes, a wise revolution alongside!
Saturday 5 September 2015, 21:22:56
[deleted user] @Lula.... many words achieve fuck all..... Who's paying Max? I'm so glad that i'm free.....
Saturday 5 September 2015, 21:25:37
[deleted user] That wasn't worded very well.. Talking about natural law and listening to new age Max will in the end achieve fuck all. You can preach peace and legal means forever..... But! Do the governments preach peace or do they have para military police (lower police intake standards..... ie, fucking nutters!) just waiting to smash your skull in and call you an undesirable?!
Saturday 5 September 2015, 21:34:36
Lula One thing i can say for certain Spike, is that Max is far from New Age- and far from these type of payments! I do agree with your other statements but do you really think meeting violence with violence is the way to go, given we have a history of this- and look where we are? Believe me, I am not someone who only sits on a cushion chanting mantras and dreaming of 'peace'- I'm active and LOUD and passionate... give me some guidelines how you and I ( and a few others!) can turn this around Spike- tell me what your idea of revolution looks like? I'm seriously interested..
Saturday 5 September 2015, 21:57:48
Lula You can tell I'm serious ´caus I just got back from speaking at a public event here in Estepona regarding the new law in Spain 'Ley de Montes' which basically is part of the Agenda21/30 process. I am also preparing to take the FCP into the 'public arena' next week as I've managed to gather in a group of activists, local politicians, an environmentalist, a journalist and an 80 year old humanitarian- all to support the FCP in public, with press and TV present. So, I really want to know if you have ideas that would be effective in these circumstances. I want to see everyone PARTICIPATE and support these initiatives- get out there and DO it....but also give me ideas from where you are so i can 'go in' armed with..??? Thats a question to all here btw.
Saturday 5 September 2015, 22:04:47
[deleted user] My idea of revolution starts with not just talking! Simple...Do you honestly think that talking and forming passive movements will achieve anything when you know for a fact that the system is fully armed and ready?
Saturday 5 September 2015, 22:05:24
Lula Nobody is paying me, I dont belong to any political group or other movement... I also like my own company but see the need to come together now and step up and do whats right. I'm not a New Age rep- although when I have finished the 'night shift' here at FCP 'coordination office' and catch a few hours kip, I might get up early enough to sit on my meditation cushion for a few minutes before having a meeting with the local mayor.. ;-)
Saturday 5 September 2015, 22:09:30
[deleted user] I never said you were paid? IMy motto is no gods no masters and i'll die with that..... I'm just the anarchist pragmatic bloke on here and you know that i don't give a fuck....! Peace my friend
Saturday 5 September 2015, 22:13:37
Lula Spike I know that- on both counts!;-) but in all seriousness, please put forward some actionable ways to move forward in your true anarchist pragmatic role; we now all know that you are not a god-fearing -new -age-mantra-chanting pansy so DO give us some sound ideas. If survival is your bag (bug out of course) then why not focus on contributing some sound advice. Time well spent and much appreciated. (even by tree-huggers!) your friend, L
Saturday 5 September 2015, 23:59:15
luqe talking will need to play its part in this 'revolution' as much as violence will not be needed. we'll need to set out the whos,whats,whens,whys for those who believe no cause for concern is required, this will not be persuasion just simply stating documented facts. we can outline a 4 year schedule for guiding us back to 'utopia' by synthesizing all views opinions with regard to different aspects of life, this can be quickly outlined by merging the greater points of the major alternate movements. i would suggest TFCP is the best platform to use in forming such a schedule, i mean if we truly acted as one organism then gov got no chance but to help pull the rope with rest of us. so we act as administrators in that were gathering all the opinions, organizing events and info drops and actively forming a real solution that can be acted upon if voted in the next day. and if after all that people just don't want to participate or still don't see the need or traps then there still no need for violence, i feel we need to split from the corporate world as it is and declare our awakened independence as a people not a race or religion but a moral and ecological code and enact and adapt our schedule as best we can to live comfortable with those still living the old life-style.